马斯克后悔了：改革很困难……

　　据新华社12月11日报道，美国电动车制造商特斯拉公司、太空探索技术公司创始人埃隆·马斯克最近接受采访时说，如果重来，他不会领导“政府效率部”（DOGE），而是专注运营自己的企业。

　　Elon Musk says he would not lead the Department of Government Efficiency (Doge) if he had his time again, but has maintained that its tumultuous efforts to shrink the size of the US government under President Donald Trump was "a little bit successful".

　　当地时间3月9日，埃隆·马斯克在白宫南草坪上向媒体展示印有“DOGE”的T恤。图源：视觉中国

　　马斯克在9日播出的播客节目中接受“政府效率部”前任发言人凯蒂·米勒采访，被问及“如果重来，是否会领导‘政府效率部’”。马斯克说：“不，我不会这样做。我想我总体上会在我的公司工作，而不是领导‘政府效率部’。这样他们（反对者）就不会烧车了。”

　　The billionaire boss of Tesla and SpaceX gave his reflections during a nearly-hour long interview on The Katie Miller Podcast on Tuesday.

　　Conservative podcast host Miller, a former White House adviser herself who worked as a spokesperson for Doge, asked Musk whether he would do his work for the organization again if he could rewind to the start of the year.

　　"I mean no, I don't think so," Musk replied.

　　Instead, he said he would have "worked in my companies, essentially," explaining that "they wouldn't have been burning the cars."

　　马斯克执掌“政府效率部”期间，多地的特斯拉汽车和充电站遭反对者打砸、纵火。按美国媒体说法，这缘于不少人对“政府效率部”大幅裁减联邦雇员以及其政治倾向不满。

　　His comments reference a series of vandalism attacks on Tesla showrooms and vehicles earlier this year, which came in response to the highly visible political role in the Trump administration for the world's richest man.

　　另据《纽约时报》报道，马斯克表示，对自己高调执掌华盛顿这个“最被网络玩梗的机构”是否真正奏效，深感不确定。报道称，这是马斯克今年5月离开“政府效率部”后，罕见就该部门公开表态。

　　当被问及“政府效率部”是否达到预期目标时，马斯克说，它在削减开支方面取得了“些许成功”，“我们在某种程度上取得成功”。“我们停止了不少毫无意义、完全是浪费的资金投入。”

　　"You really want the least amount done by government as possible," he explained, adding that Doge had "stopped a lot of funding that really just made no sense."

　　马斯克还表示，削减这些资金的同时，也带来严重反弹。他解释说：“如果你切断流向政治腐败的钱，他们会猛烈反扑。”

　　目前，“政府效率部”网站公布的已削减金额是2140亿美元，但其实际节省金额难以准确量化。独立观察人士坚持认为，美国政府发布的数据比实际节省的金额少。

　　DOGE estimates that it has cut $214 billion from US government spending, but, due to the lack of public accounting, experts find it impossible to authenticate this claim.

　　据美联社报道，马斯克在采访中哀叹快速改革美国联邦政府何其困难，并承认由于其领导“政府效率部”的工作，不仅没有得到公众支持，他的企业也遭受了巨大损失。

　　当地时间3月14日，美国总统特朗普（左）与马斯克（右）在离开白宫前交谈。图源：视觉中国

　　马斯克在2024年美国总统选举中全力支持特朗普，为后者胜选立下汗马功劳。在特朗普重返白宫后，马斯克开始执掌“政府效率部”，帮助联邦政府削减开支。然而，在此期间他与政府多名内阁成员发生争执，围绕“大而美”税收和支出法案又与特朗普大打“口水仗”。

　　Musk's relationship with Trump soured in June after Musk criticized the president's "Big Beautiful Bill." The pair publicly feuded for months.

　　5月，马斯克正式告别“政府效率部”。此后，他的处境大大好转，特斯拉股东9月通过了一项薪酬方案，有望使他成为全球首位“万亿富翁”。近日，他还暗示自己的另一家公司太空探索（SpaceX）即将启动IPO，估值目标有望达1.5万亿美元。

　　Musk's fortunes have improved since leaving government. Tesla shareholders recently approved a compensation package that could make him the world’s first trillionaire, strengthening his argument that he should have stayed focused on his companies rather than the federal bureaucracy.

　　在11月30日上线社交平台的一档播客节目中，马斯克坦言，他发现自己“只要参与政治，结果通常都挺糟糕”，所以他觉得自己还是“少掺和为好”。

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